https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIO4IDMnBDU&t=680s This is a real blinder for me. It is why I value what are alas occasional conversations with someone who really listens to what I have to say and vice versa, where we actually move forward in our understanding. Everyone feels they have to defend a position but if we are all learning what's the matter with admitting that we don't understand...

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